Friday, February 29, 2008
Efficient Markets
I was watching the markets live after having read my dose of budget expectations. The market opened lower and stayed under till about 11 AM on weak global cues and may be because of the uncertainty that it faced in the form of budget.. But once the budget speech started, the market was responding almost on a minute to minute basis to the budget provisions.
The moment Mr. Chidambaram announced the increased thrust on education in the form of a 20% increased budget spend stocks like Educomp, Aptech, NIIT were up. Then came the announcements on healthcare and the 15% additional allocation.. up goes DRL, Sparc.. Emphasis on polio and HIV eradication reflected an increase in Panacea Biotech. Waivers of loans availed by small and marginal farmers.. the PSU bank stocks fall. Excise duty reduction.. auto stocks rise. And then comes the killer…the hike in the short term capital gains tax. Then there was no stopping and markets started falling badly.
All of us know about the efficient market hypothesis. But it is during events like these you get to watch it in action. Ok.. enough of the serious stuff. I am not sure how many of you caught the real fun moments in today's budget. I caught at least three instances:
1. When the finance minister was talking about the "One Time Settlement scheme" for the loans availed by the farmers, there was one MP who was opposing it heavily without even hearing what the FM was saying. At one point when the FM announced that he is increasing the loans that are going to be eligible under the scheme, this guy started opposing even more. The speaker then intervened and said to that opposing MP that "You should be happy when the loans to be waived are increased. Then why are you opposing?" Then MP then immediately sat down with a sheepish smile on his face. Thats the state of our beloved leaders..
2. During his speech the FM was at one point extolling LIC and he said "LIC is a jewel amongst the crowns.." I hope he did not mean this..
3. When the FM increased the IT exemption limit for senior citizen from 195 K to 225 K... he had a naughty look at his face and looked at the speaker and said..."I hope there would be no objection now"...
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
The Pre-IPO Grey markets
For the uninitiated, Grey Markets are actually over the counter markets where dealers may execute orders for preferred customers as well as provide support for a new issue, before the stock actually gets listed. So, these markets operate in the period between the announcement of an IPO and the actual listing.
As the name suggests, this is an illegal market and has been banned by SEBI. However trades in this market are still rampant and thousands of crores exchange hands. The grey market premiums are even quoted in many of the financial dailies and are easily available in many public forums on the net.
I had studied the time series data of the grey market premiums for 38 IPOs which came out in 2007. Some of the interesting stuff on these..
1. The correlation between the last quoted grey market price and the actual listing price is 0.9768 (a near perfect correlation). This suggests that, grey market’s ability to predict actual prices is great.
2. Not surprisingly, there is a definitive positive association between the percentage premium (in grey markets) and the subscription rates. Higher the premium quoted in the grey markets, greater seems to be the subscription rates or vice-versa. The correlation here was about 0.8095.
I am not going to bore you to death, giving the other findings here. However, I have concluded my paper stating - Stay away from these markets and don’t ever get into executing actual trades. Thousands of investors have burnt their fingers dealing in these markets.
Nevertheless, as intelligent investors use these grey market prices as one more additional data point in your analysis while evaluating an IPO. Grey markets seem to be great indicators of dumb IPOs..
Monday, February 25, 2008
Destination
Saturday, February 23, 2008
Day 7
Day 7 was a lackluster day. I guess, there were just about a couple of companies which participated.
The last thing i heard was that more than 95% of the batch is placed in the first 6 days.. of course these are unofficial estimates..
Thursday, February 21, 2008
Day 6
Looks like my views have been heard or similar views have been floating around on the preparedness of students. From today on, the Placement Committee has decided to put in place the following:
1. CV Experts - Catch these guys to customize your CVs for the role/ company you are applying
2. Company champion - Know everything about the company/ role before you step in for the interview
3. Student Village Champions - Guys with whom you can chat up if you are generally feeling low and if you require any help in targeting/ preparing for companies which are coming..
These students (who are taking on the above roles) would be around the interview area to help people who need it. Great initiatives indeed.
The formal placement season is on just for three more days. Our last term - Term 8, starts on Monday.
I have an interesting appointment tomorrow and i will make up my mind on where i would be joining, immediately after that.
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
Day 5
1. The number of students who are still in the process has come down
2. If interviews are still being conducted in the main building, then it attracts a lot of attention and the students who are still in the race are unnecessarily pressurized
This is a very good move.
Coming to the companies which took part today... the biggies are DRL, DSP ML, Fortis, Genpact, Honeywell, Intel, Pfizer, Sony, Suzlon... and many others.
Many students who have already secured jobs have gone to their hometowns for cooling off. On the other hand it’s very disturbing to see some of your classmates still in the fray... This section can be split into two kinds...
1. People who know where they want to go. These are people who are at least focused and are confident that in case they are not able to secure a job here, they would chase their passion outside. I am very confident that these guys will surely secure a job in the next couple of days
2. People who have become so desperate that they would try their hand at any company... be it pharma, banking, PE, real estate, IT... anything. This is disturbing.
I met up with one such student yesterday who was waiting for his turn for attending one interview. I happened to pass by and wished him best of luck. He had no clue what the company is into, why he wanted to join them, what are the roles they are offering... nothing. I as a passive stock investor knew more about the company than him. This is totally unacceptable. If this is the level of preparedness, no doubt he will again miss this job.
If you are not clear about where you want to go… that is forgivable. But if you do not even do your basic homework before going for an interview, i am not sure what will ever motivate the recruiter to give you this job.
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Day 4
This was primarily led by IT cos. (CA, Dassualt, HCL, IBM, NIIT, Oracle, Wipro, Virtuasa, Tech Mahindra, Zensar, Mindtree...), Real estate (CBRE, DLF, Hines, Lodha..) media and some finance cos as well.
People are negotiating hard for the specific roles and salary they are expecting. Most companies are opening up their jobs.. (allowing walk-ins). About 90% of the batch should have at least one offer by now (this is just my estimate..). However, quite a few are still shopping for better deals (you are out of placements, only when you have two offers).
Crisis of confidence has clearly set in amongst those who haven't made it still. Many of them are falling in the vicious circle... “no job still - poor confidence - bad performance during interview”.. Some of the married ones are the most affected. Their woes are multiplied by the anxiety shown by the spouses, especially when the spouses start comparing the salaries of their counterparts amongst themselves..
It is important that they take some time out for themselves, build up confidence and then attend the future interviews. Remember, all of us had jobs earlier and our career should have at least been above average, else we would have never found our places in ISB.
I am beginning to get the notorious title of the one who is rejecting the most number of offers. I have rejected 6 till now (1 Commercial bank, 3 I-Banks, 1 Real Estate and 1 consulting). The point is, its not just money . If the company is not even able to appreciate the work you have done in past and give you a commensurate grade/ role, then why join them with a negative frame of mind... and yes, money does play an important role. No one works for charity..
Here is a question i want to pose to the HR clan. There are 2 candidates competing for a role. One has quoted a price of Rs. 11 lakhs and the other Rs. 20 lakhs. Which one do you choose?
We all know the theoretical answer i.e choose the one who brings in the maximum value (NPV in other words)... but the actual action taken by most HR people does not reflect their understanding of this concept. Most HR people seem to think they save 9 lakhs for the company by choosing person 1. Little do they realize that they might have actually lost may be 9 crores in potential profits by choosing the wrong person.
This example is little simplistic. Purposely so. Dont lose the main point, by trying to find flaws in the argument. The crux is, invest time in finding the right person and the right fit. Not in haggling for a few couple of lakhs..
Sunday, February 17, 2008
Day 3
The not so good part of the placement process is that pressure has started setting in for the people who have still not made it in the first two days. The feeling is further enhanced when you see your class mates and quad mates walking in jeans and T-Shirt indicating subtly that they are out of the placement process. Its dangerous to succumb to the peer pressure...But as expected quite a few have started succumbing to the peer pressure and have started accepting bad deals.
The other aspect is that companies have also started feeling the pressure... A lot of students are already out of the placement process and the companies are feeling the pressure of lesser number of candidates available for the interviews. Some companies have already started opening the roles available, for all the students. Meaning, even if you were originally not short listed, you could now walk in for an interview.
As for me, I had pretty good interactions with four companies. Fingers crossed.
Day 2
More than 25 domestic companies and many international companies have made their offers yesterday. This includes all the consulting firms, many I-Banks, commercial banks, IT majors, Conglomerates and real estate majors.
My guess is that more than 150 people should have got an offer and about 100 or so could have actually accepted it. Will get back to you on getting some more dope on this.
I had two interviews yesterday and got an offer from both of them. However i have rejected both the offers. Both of them were banks.
My interview had of course gone well with both the guys. At the end of the interview, when the HR lady broached the salary topic and gave me a number which they had in their mind, my first reaction was "Mam, may be you are missing a couple of zeroes, could you please recheck and revert?". But then i realized that she was damn serious when she made the offer... So, you can imagine the rest of the story..
My experience with the other bank was even more interesting. At the end of the interview...
HR: "Ok Mr. Rangarajan, we are impressed with your skill sets and achievements and are pleased to offer you.... blah.. blah..."
Me: "Mam.. can i bring something to your attention?"
HR: Sure.. go ahead
Me" "I had already mentioned this during te interview, but i guess this fact got missed out. One year back, before i joined ISB, i had an offer from you. However, i could not take it up, because i had decided to join ISB. The grade you had offered me then was one level higher than what you are offering me now and the salary you are offering me now is about ___ % lesser... Could you please take these facts into account" (I had a mind to ask... Do you really think, ISB could have brought down the value in me?.. however, i restrained myself..)
HR: Is it so? I am very sorry. Give me a couple of minutes, let me check and revert..
Me: Sure.. take your time
HR (20 min later): Sorry Mr. Rangarajan, our mandate for today is to hire up to a maximum of this level only. You can take this offer if you want to..
Me: Oh.. thats wonderful. I am sure you understand my position... Thanks for the efforts..
This again reiterates my views about the HR community in general (there are of course some exceptions..). Its best that i dont voice them in this forum.
My plate is again full today and I have an intersting array of companies to meet..
Saturday, February 16, 2008
Day 1
Most of the other shortlists are also out and the whole campus is abuzz with activity and anxiety. At least one third of the batch is expected to be placed by end of today.
Some people have more number of shortlists than they can handle and are juggling their limited time between the interviews... a few have already chosen their loyalties/ aspirations and have decided to skip a few of these interviews.
Will comeback with more updates later..
Friday, February 15, 2008
Day 0
The show starts today. 7 consulting firms - McK, BCG, ATK, Oliver Wyman, Parthenon, Diamond and Accenture and a couple of other firms start their interview process today.Expectations are running high from the recruiters perspective given the latest FT 20 ranking. We will know if our months of preparation and perspiration have been worthwhile...
All of us have heard enough about the placements week and have formed our strategies to cope with its anxieties, uncertainties, disappointments and "Appointments"... (By the way this was meant to be a joke... :-)
I will take on the role of Sanjaya (of Mahabarath fame) for the next few days and will give you all an idea of whats happening out here..As for me... I have almost made up my mind on where i would be going... Lets see..
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Pecking order theory of employment
1. Internal funds
2. Debt
3. Equity
It is a popular belief that this pecking order is chosen because of cost of funds i.e. internal funds being the cheapest and Equity being the costliest. However, this is not true. The actual reason why firms choose this pecking order is because; this order helps in reducing information asymmetry. Equity issuance may signal that the firm's stock is overvalued (why will a firm sell more of something when it is undervalued?). Hence the market may react negatively to the firm's equity issuance move… A debt issuance is a better option than the equity issuance because, by issuing debt a firm is effectively signaling that it believes that the cost of financial distress is small and that the firm's future prospects are strong. In the same logic, using internal funds is better than debt issuance because of lesser costs of efforts involved and lesser resistance from external parties.
Now comes the gyaan part. I am of the view that, we can use this theory in our employment search. During an interview there is a whole lot of information asymmetry involved. You know that you have done (or not done) many things, but the interviewer is not able to believe you fully and it is difficult for you to send out credible signals. This being the case picking up cues from Pecking Order will imply that, your order of employment search should be
1. Own network - Least information asymmetry. Easier to send out credible signals
2. Leveraging experience - If you already have experience in a particular field, then you can at least send out credible signals about your past experience and give out references from the field, which will help you clinch a better job in the same field.
3. Career switch - This is the most difficult part, just like equity issuance. There is enormous information asymmetry and hence most difficult to pull off.
But if you do want to exercise the third option, make sure that you have some means of sending out credible signals, which are difficult to be imitated by others...
Monday, February 11, 2008
Actions speak louder...
Time for some statistics..
1. Mr. Sunil Duggal, CEO of Dabur India sold over 12,000 shares representing about 0.72% stake in the company between Jan 2 and and Jan 7. The deal should have taken place around Rs. 120/ share. The share price declined to about Rs. 85 in the crash, days later...
2. Mr. Ajay Kumar Vij, CEO of Dabur Pharma, sold around 10,000 shares in the same period. The price at which they were sold is around Rs. 87/ share. The stock price after crash was Rs. 55/ share...
3. Mr. Senthil Kumar of I-Flex (not sure of his designation.. but must be one of the directors) sold 8000 shares in the same period around Rs. 1580. Price after the crash... about Rs. 950/ share
4. Same story with Suzlon. The promoters sold over 65,000 shares in this period at around Rs. 460... the price after te crash.. Rs. 310..
5. The promoter of Crazy Infotech sold 5000 shares on Jan 10 at Rs. 206/ share. The price after the crash was Rs. 47/ share..
The interesting point is, we could have obtained the knowledge of most of these moves, with little effort and luck, before the crash itself. And this could have saved a good deal of money to many investors... But most of us dont invest the time, the market deserves...
If you can trust something in the markets it is the notion of fear and the greed. Look out for these signs. Let them not fool you. Some of the places were you can track these moves are
1. The bulk/ block trade column which is published by most financial dailies
2. http://corpfiling.co.in/insidertrading/insidertrading.aspx
Tuesday, February 5, 2008
11 more days…
The consulting guys are no longer seen around... most live in bunkers, studying every minute of their waking moment. Yes, it has taken its toll on some people and they are already so deep in their preparation that, they refuse to see anything normally.
Here is an example... a couple of days ago, I had the fortune (???) of accompanying one of my friends for breakfast. She was a walking example of MECE (Mutually Exclusive Collective Exhaustible) analysis of consulting. We first reached the curds counter first, she served herself a bit of curds and tasted it first, before serving herself a bigger portion. She turned around with a beaming smile to explain that its not good to have sour curds early in the morning.
Next comes the Aloo Paratha... "Bhaiya is this made of butter or oil". Once again she turned around to pause and explain. "If it is made of butter than i cant have, else i can have:... then we came to eggs counter. This time she turned towards me before the serving itself. She asked me if i could help her identify "good eggs"...
Enough is enough…I said "No" and walked past her, wishing to avoid these questions in the bread, juice and the fruits counter. I wonder what will become of these people, five years from now. The very thought of career consultants gives me a shiver.
Next comes to Fin guys. "Do you know what is a participating forward?" "When you are estimating cross border acquisitions, which beta you take?", "How do you take into account real options when you are doing a DCF valuation".... these guys are numbers walking on two legs.
There are quite a few in the batch, who are still thinking, which path to take.
"I have no clue on what fixed income sales is all about. But i have a shortlist. What do you think? Can i become a Fixed income sales guy in a week?"...
"Real estate??? All i know is that land prices are going up.. Is that good enough for working with a leading real estate player?"...
….these guys are all around. Even the supremely confident, might be privately wondering about these issues..
Finally, there are number of people who seem to experience the "DIARRHEA OF APPLICATIONS AND CONSTIPATION OF SHORTLISTS" effect... These people are sincerely hoping for speedy cure and grabbing every laxative at sight...
Just another 11 days to go...